nunc lege, nunc ora ([info]musamea) wrote in [info]summers_fling,

FIC: Paideia

Title: Paideia
Author: [info]musamea
Disclaimer: The X-Men belong to Marvel and affiliates. The Odyssey belongs to Homer (sort of).
Warnings/Rating: PG-13, since John has a potty mouth.
Summary: Kalos k'agathos. Scott teaching in the classroom, and out of it. Pinch-hit for [info]renata_kedavra, who requested Scott with students (friendship, teaching, paternalistic moment, whatever), Scott being a geek, Scott being cool. (Bonus points if you can do both geek and cool, but either/or works too!) I hope this suits!

"Paideia: the process of educating man into his true form, the real and genuine human nature" -- Paideia: The Ideals of Greek Culture, Werner Jaeger


I. Philosophía: Love of Knowledge

"This is stupid," John declared, for the third time in as many minutes.

Scott sighed. His gradebook and a stack of Calculus exams were laid out on the desk before him. An hour and a half and he'd gotten through less than a third of the tests that he'd planned to finish while John served his detention. Clearly, that wasn't going to happen.

He looked up from the neat columns of numbers and symbols on Piotr's exam and focused on his newest student. John had been at Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters for exactly four weeks, and Scott was beginning to think that John's only gift was an infallible radar for trouble and a vocabulary colorful enough to make any sailor blush. Right now, John was tapping his pencil on the edge of his desk, in time to a song that only he could hear. He was slumped in his chair in the insouciantly bored posture only attainable by a certain class of teenaged troublemakers. The sheet of trig problems in front of him looked untouched.

"What's stupid is drawing pornographic pictures in the margins of your test instead of actually completing the test," Scott pointed out. "Labeling the subjects of said pictures with the names of your fellow students is stupider. Turning the test with said pictures in to your math teacher… do you want to take a stab at where that falls along the scale of stupid things you shouldn't do?"

John smirked. "Like you didn't get off on it."

Scott resisted the urge to throw his Calculus textbook at John's head. "You're lucky I didn't put you on stable duty for a month."

"For a couple of drawings? Man, you guys are a bunch of tightasses at this school."

"You're not here just for that, John, and you know it. Though I hardly take 'a couple of drawings' that turned the girls in your class into sex objects lightly."

"The hell do you care?" John muttered. His voice was pitched just loud enough for the words to carry across the space between his desk and Scott's.

Scott dropped his red pen onto the desk and let it roll away from him. "You know why I care? One of these days, if you become an X-Man, Kitty and Jubilee will be watching your back on a mission. Do you really want to alienate two teammates who'll be responsible for getting you home in one piece?"

"Hey," John held up both hands, "I plan on getting along with both of them, if you know what I mean. Now Kitty, she's kinda scrawny. But she's got a nice mouth. And Jubes. Whooee. Her ass--"

"Stable duty, John. I mean it."

"Okay, okay. Christ." He lapsed into silence for maybe thirty seconds before bursting out with, "When am I ever gonna use this shit anyway?"

Scott considered reeling off his usual list of professions requiring advanced math knowledge, but decided against it. John wasn't dumb, but Scott would be shocked if the kid took the road more traveled. No, what he needed was to be convinced that solving these problems could have a direct and immediate benefit to him. Beyond getting out of detention with Tightass Summers, of course.

"Come with me," Scott said, shoving his chair backward and heading toward the door.

John followed, but warily, as if he wasn't quite sure if his teacher wouldn't take him straight to the stables as he'd threatened. But, instead, Scott led him down the hallway to the mansion's rec room. He took a couple of pool cues off their stand and handed John the ball rack.

"Um?" John said.

Scott made his way around the table, retrieving balls from each pocket and sliding them toward John. "Rack them."

"Why?"

"Because I'm going to show you one of the uses for the geometry that you find so 'stupid.'"

Scott let John break. He managed to sink the striped ten before scratching on his next shot.

Scott took his place at the table's edge and lined up his first shot. He sent his six-ball spinning toward the four, and sank both in opposite pockets. Another shot and a third ball went straight into the far corner pocket. He banked his next shot to ricochet his two-ball into the pocket closest to him. He put a little topspin on the cue ball on his next shot, just for variety.

When Scott finally missed a shot, he only had his five-ball and the eight-ball left. He looked up at John, who for the first time since his arrival at the school wasn't wearing his trademark smirk.

"You're a fucking hustler," the boy breathed.

Scott stiffened, a little. "Language, John. And no, I'm just good at math. What I just did was all about angles and degrees. Anyone who knows geometry can play like that."

It wasn't strictly true. John hadn't been around long enough to learn that one side effect of Cyclops's mutation was an uncanny ability to track motion and calculate probable trajectories. But what John didn't know couldn't hurt him, and the way he was looking at Scott now, with a gleam of real awe and interest in his eyes… well, even if that interest lay more in learning how to stiff drunken players out of their money, Scott could use it to get him to pay attention in the classroom.

"Could you…" John hesitated. He clearly wasn't used to asking for help and probably resented being put in that position.

"Could I teach you to play like this?" Scott finished for him. "No. That would be dishonest. But I can teach you geometry. What you choose to do with that knowledge… well, I'd like to think you'll use it to benefit others. With knowledge comes responsibility. But I certainly can't stop you from using it for something else. Once you know something, John, it's yours." He leveled his gaze at his student's, so that John would know Scott was looking him in the eye, even with the visor in the way. "No one can take what you know from you. No one."

John considered this for a moment, ducking his head. When he looked up, the blandness was back in his face, but Scott thought that maybe there was just a glint of hope in his eyes. "Another game?" John asked, racking up the balls. "This doesn't make us friends, you know," he hastened to add.

Scott smiled. "I know," he said, and bent to break the huddle of balls centered on the table.


II. Timē: Honor

He found Kitty sniffling alone in the conservatory when he went to find Ororo to go over the monthly chores rotation.

"Hey, 'Ro, who do you think-- oh. Kitty?"

She whipped around, startled, and for a moment Scott thought she'd just drop right through the floor and run away from him. "Mr. Summers! Um. I was just… uh." She dashed a hand angrily at the moisture on her cheeks.

"Hey, it's okay," Scott said. He spread his hands out in front of him, palms facing her, and nodded at the space next to her on the bench. "Would you mind if I sit?"

"Go ahead," she said, looking away from him.

They sat in silence for a few minutes. Scott ran through all possible scenarios in his head. She'd failed an exam. No, this was Kitty. Okay, she'd gotten a B on an exam. Or she'd gotten bad news from home… no, he would've heard from the Professor already, if that had been the case. Which left… girl things.

Where was Jean when he needed her?

"Um, do you want to talk about it?" he ventured, after another minute or so had passed.

"No," she reflexively blurted out. Then, very low, after more silence, "Yes."

Scott just waited. In these situations, he'd found that it was generally best just to let his students talk themselves through whatever they were thinking about.

"It's... I'm just... gah!" Kitty rolled her eyes. "You're going to think this is stupid."

"Try me."

"We were playing Truth or Dare, and... nngh, this sounds so dumb." She stopped, looked down at her hands, which were shimmering a little. Then the words came tumbling out in a rush. "John dared Piotr to kiss me. Really kiss me, not something he could get out of, like kissing me on the hand because it wasn't specific, but on the mouth, with tongue, and man, I know I shouldn't say this, Mr. Summers, but sometimes I really, really hate John."

Scott thought it was a good thing that Kitty wasn't looking at his face at this moment. He had a feeling that his expression was probably one of rather unprofessional agreement.

"What happened then?" he prompted, when she showed no signs of speaking.

"He..." Kitty bit her lip. "He wouldn't do it. Piotr, I mean. He didn't. Wouldn't."

Scott felt a surge of pride for Piotr, which was, of course, not exactly something he could share with Kitty. He leaned back on the bench and surveyed Ororo's orchids as he searched for an answer. "Kitty... do you think, maybe it's not a bad thing that he refused? Maybe it was the polite thing to do?"

She snorted. "Right. 'Oh, pardon me, Katya, but you are so hideous that no man in his right mind would ever want to kiss you.'"

"He said that?"

"No... but, I mean, what's a girl to think?"

"That he was being nice?" Scott bit back an obviously. He could still remember his teenage years, when he and Jean had awkwardly danced around the issue for months. Moments like this one made those moments of heart-pounding uncertainty seem so long ago. They had been so young, with no idea of what faced them, of how years of waking up to each other's morning breath and taking care of practical things like paying the bills could change and deepen a relationship.

"Nice." Kitty snorted again. Scott wondered who she'd picked it up from. "That's exactly what a girl wants. A guy who's 'nice' to her."

Scott was about to point out that 'nice' was exactly what most women wanted, when she said, under her breath, "I bet he would've kissed Jubilee."

Ah. "You think so?"

He really didn't like it when his students rolled their eyes at him like that. "Duh. Just look at her. She's pretty, she's confident, she gets along with guys really easily. And what else? Oh, she's pretty."

Scott pondered using 'Ro's flowers as an illustration for... for something. Something about how the showy orchids drew the eye, but in the end it was the quieter, more delicate honeysuckles that he favored. Then he decided that would be a really dumb thing to say. "Look, Kitty, you may not believe what I'm going to tell you, and that's okay. But hear me out, all right?" He waited until he had her attention. "Some guys... they're not going to be really bold. For any number of reasons. And usually it's because they think you're attractive."

"But I'm not the pretty one," she interrupted. "I'm always the 'smart one.' 'Oh, go ask Kitty to help you with math.' 'We're playing Trivial Pursuit? I call Kitty for my team.'"

"What's wrong with being smart?" Scott asked. He was starting to feel a little lost as to where this conversation was going.

"The smart girl's always the one with 'the personality,' Mr. Summers."

"Hey, I don't know about those stupid teenage boys, but smart is hot."

"Oh, please."

"I'm serious!"

"That's easy for you to say!" Kitty shot back. "You have Dr. Grey!"

Scott threw back his head and laughed. "Oh, Kitty. Get Jean to show you some of our high school pictures sometime, okay? None of us looked really good back then. Jean had limp hair and she hadn't grown into her nose yet. I had pimples. Even Warren had bad hair days.

"Look," he said, growing serious. "I'm not saying men aren't shallow. We are. But any guy worth having really quickly realizes that he has to be attracted to something more than just looks. And you're not exactly lacking in that department, so I don't want to hear you getting down on yourself, okay?"

She gave him a half-hearted shrug.

"Hey, listen to me. I know Piotr. You know him. He's respectful. That's part of why you like him so much, right? Because he's such a gentleman?"

A small smile touched her lips. "Bobby never used to open doors for girls before Pete came here."

"Exactly. And one thing about gentlemen, Kitty, they'll never make a game out of kissing a girl they like. Piotr's not going to kiss you just because John's egging him on. Maybe especiallynot because John's egging him on."
"But--"

"Besides, do you really want him to kiss you because of some game that you yourself think is stupid? Or do you want him to kiss you when he's ready to tell you how he feels?"

Kitty's smile grew wider. "Well, I guess it would kind of suck to be kissed in front of John."

Scott laughed again. "Smart girl."


III. Xenía: Guest-right

It was three in the morning when Jean rolled over and mumbled into his shoulder, "Bobby's heading down to the infirmary."

"He's what?"

"Infirmary. Bobby. Going." After they'd gotten back from Liberty Island, Jean had stayed up for nearly another twenty-four hours with her patients -- now three -- before Scott had gotten Hank on the phone and made him assure her that Rogue, Logan, and the Professor sounded like they were in stable condition, and it'd be safe for her to go to bed. If she wasn't exactly coherent right now, Scott could hardly fault her. "I should... urgh."

"You stay here," he said, sliding out from beneath their blankets and wondering how her telepathy could've possibly reached the sub-basement from their room on the third floor. "I'll get this one."

He slipped on a shirt and his glasses before making his way down to the infirmary.
Bobby was sitting next to Rogue's bed, looking as if he wasn't quite sure if he ought to take her hand or not. Scott cleared his throat softly and watched his student nearly jump out of his seat.

"I think your crush may have just passed into 'mildly creepy' territory, Bobby," he observed, crossing the room to snag one of Jean's stools. He rolled it over to Rogue's bed and sat.

"Uh. I... I couldn't sleep. And I just thought... well. I thought I could come in and check on her." Bobby's ears were turning bright red. It was almost cute.

"Well, I'm sure you were worried about the Professor, too." Scott's voice was wry and held the faintest reprimand.

"Right! Um, and Mr. Logan, of course."

He had to smile at that. If anyone had more cause than himself to resent Logan's presence at the school, it had to be Bobby. Bobby who had fallen hard for Rogue, who had to watch her face light up every time the older man walked into the room. Scott could almost excuse him for sneaking around the mansion at three o'clock in the goddamn morning.

Scott glanced over at the exam table, where Logan was -- presumably -- sleeping. Bobby's gaze followed his.

"Don't you…" he stopped, clearly unsure of just what kind of protocol was required in talking to one's sleepy, boxer-clad Calculus teacher about matters of the heart in the middle of the night. Bobby changed tacks, with slightly more diplomacy than grace. "Do you ever wish you hadn't gone on that mission? To Canada, I mean. With Storm." To rescue them, him was left unsaid.

Hank had made a joke of it on the phone, earlier. Apparently Jean had told him something of what had been going on at the school since Logan and Rogue's arrival. The idea that Jean found the flirtation important enough to talk to Hank about it… well, Scott wasn't sure what he thought about that.

"I hear there's a suitor in Ithaca these days," Hank had said, laughing.

"Right, I may just have to kill him when I get home."

"Just don't go on a spree and hang the maids, too." Hank's voice held just the slightest edge of warning, beneath the mirth.

"Heh, I think you might have the wrong section in Homer, Hank. Maybe I should be more worried about him blinding me," Scott had said, wondering if he was still joking.

"Well, if that happens, at least you know his name." And that hadn't been funny, not really.

Bobby's voice brought him back to the present. "--I mean, sorry, Mr. Summers, but the whole school's been talking."

Scott sighed. "Bobby, why did the Professor open this school?"

Bobby blinked. "Um. Well, he wanted it to be a haven for mutants… a place where we can learn to use our gifts to benefit society…"

"Right. And where would my abandoning two fellow mutants who were being attacked by the Brotherhood fit into that vision?"

"Mr. Summers, I didn't mean--"

"I know." Scott smiled, trying to show that he wasn't angry. "Look… it's no secret that we're training you up to be a leader among the X-Men, someday." He held up a hand when Bobby began to protest. "I thought we were talking about things that the whole school knows? Well, everyone knows this, and you're going to have to deal with that."

He watched as Bobby processed his statement. When his student nodded, he continued, "I've watched dozens of mutants pass through this school since it first opened, and you know as well as I do that not all our graduates go on to lead lives… according to a perfect moral compass." When did I start to sound like the Professor? "But that doesn't give us the right to turn them away. We give them shelter, food, an education. It's their choice of how they use any of those things."

"But we have rules while they're here," Bobby pointed out.

"True. Though the Professor left 'Don't try to steal the fiancées of faculty members' off the list. Can't imagine why."

Bobby chuckled. "So you don't… you don't mind?"

Scott scoffed. "Of course I mind. But to turn away another mutant simply because he rubs me the wrong way? I couldn't do that and give the graduation speech about this school and the Professor's vision for it."

"Oh."

Scott reached out an put a hand on Bobby's shoulder. "It's like when John first came to the school, you know? I know you hated having him for a roommate at times, but you never came to me or the Professor and asked to have it changed."

"Yeah, well…" Bobby shrugged his other shoulder. "It was the right thing to do. And he wasn't that bad."

"Right. Now," Scott stood and stretched, "if I recall correctly, I'm giving your class a quiz later today. I suggest you go upstairs and get some sleep."

Bobby grinned. "Any chance for a hint? You know, since I was being all conscientious about the welfare of my fellows."

Scott stared. "Oh God, you've been hanging out with Hank too much. Upstairs, now."

When Bobby's laughter and footsteps had faded, Scott looked at Jean's three patients. He tucked Rogue's blanket more securely around her, held the Professor's hand for several moments, and then stopped at Logan.

I hear there's a suitor in Ithaca these days.

"Yeah, well," Scott said aloud, to no one in particular, "It's the right thing to do."


IV. Sophrosynē: Moderation

"Read these." Scott unceremoniously dropped two three-ring binders stuffed with papers in front of Rogue. They landed with a thump on the coffee table as she looked up at him from her seat on the den floor.

"For your flying lessons."

"I have to read for that?"

"They're manuals for the Blackbird," Scott explained. "I want you to go through these cover to cover before we even go near the jet."

He saw half a dozen questions chase their way across her face, but the one she settled on was, "I thought the Blackbird didn't have manuals? Not accessible ones at any rate. Didn't they break the molds?"

"Yeah. I wrote those," Scott said, gesturing at the folders.

"And he is much too pleased about this fact," Ororo said from behind him. He turned to find her standing in the doorway, her arms crossed and her expression amused.

He grinned at her. "Damn straight I am."

She came into the room and made her way over to sit by Rogue. "Let's see," she said, picking up one of the binders and leafing through it. "Scott, have you added to these since you last showed them to me?"

"Yeah, well, I found a better way to deal with the runoff from the engine fluid and--"

"You know, I think there is some American saying about reinventing the wheel," Ororo said, winking at Rogue.

"Or fixing what ain't broke," Rogue offered in return.

"Exactly. So why, Mr. Summers, are you amending your already excellent manual?"

"Hey, why do something the hard way if there's a better, or more efficient, or more intuitive method?"

"What he means is, 'I need every excuse I can get to fiddle with that jet. Because it's fun,'" Ororo translated.

"Huh. Like I've never caught you executing some crazy flying maneuvers just for the hell of it."

One delicate eyebrow arched upward. "Scott Summers, I do not do many things 'just for the hell of it.' The Blackbird is an extremely sensitive jet that serves a very specific purpose in this school, and treating it lightly--"

"Her."

"Excuse me?"

"The Blackbird. She's a her. I mean, she's a she. You know what I mean!"

Rogue was laughing aloud now, and Ororo's eyes held a gleam of devilment.

"Scott, a little balance is required, don't you think? What would Jean think if she heard you talking like this?"

"Jean already calls her my 'other woman,' but that's not the point. Flying is all about balance."

"Not the way he does it," Ororo muttered to Rogue.

"No, really." Scott was vaguely aware that he was slipping into his teaching stance -- legs slightly spread, one hand nudging his glasses into place. "Rogue, when you fly the Blackbird, you're not just flying her. You're dancing with her. You're taking everything you know in here--" he tapped his forehead "--and combining it with everything you feel in here--" He placed a palm on his heart. "It's the mix of intuition and information that makes a good pilot… sure, you know what your readings are telling you, but at some point, you'll have to make a decision based on what feels right.

"That's why I'm having you start on the manuals. Because once you know the rules, you can help me do the jet's upkeep and I'll take you up as my co-pilot sometimes. And once you've been working with her for a while, you'll learn to listen to her. You'll know when to throw the rulebook out the window. And that's the most important thing."

"Breaking rules?"

"Trusting yourself."

There were other things he wanted to tell her, things he wasn't sure if she was ready to hear. At least not from him, not with Ororo sitting right next to her.

He wanted to tell her that flying was good for people like them, mutants who had no conscious control over their mutations. Flying could be the unnatural made natural, and as such, it was a good reminder that such a phenomenon could occur. Could occur to them, to her.

He wanted to tell her that flying felt right, because she could lose herself in it, in the way she would never allow herself to lose herself in her mutation. He wanted to tell her that few things in her life would ever give her such a thrill as her first solo flight -- finding her calling, maybe, reconciling with her parents. Sex.

Well, no, he didn't actually want to tell her that last thing. One day, some guy who was both clever and good (he'd make sure of it) would show her that her skin didn't have to mark the end of all intimacy. Until then… Scott knew better than to think it was his place to convince her otherwise. That wasn't something he could give her.

But he could give her this. So he said, "I want you to read the first five chapters by Saturday. I'm going to quiz you on the diagram of the console then, all right?"

Rogue was still holding one of the folders like it might explode at any moment, but the expression in her eyes was undeniably one of excitement. "Okay."

"Okay, then. We are going to have so much fun." He walked out of the den with a grin on his face and a bounce in his step, chased by the women's mingled laughter. Let them think he was plane-mad, utterly unbalanced by his obsession with electrical systems and jet engines. He knew better.

He knew exactly what he was doing.


V. Arête: Excellence

They gather one by one as the moon reaches its highest point in the sky. The night is a little hazy with warmth, and the black asphalt of the basketball court still holds some of the day's heat.

They come dressed in black leather. Uniforms that are beginning to shape themselves to their wearer's bodies, a suppleness born out of countless hours of sweat and strain, as specific to each new team member as the color of the X embroidered on his or her collar.

They come bearing booze, since this is a wake, after all, even if Storm would throw a fit if she heard of it. They're not stupid. They're doing this on a school night, because it means the students, both old and new, will be soundly asleep in their beds by now.

They come and greet each other quietly with codenames that they may have finally earned, a month ago at Alcatraz. Shadowcat. Colossus. Iceman. And Rogue, still one of them, even if her only gift now is Cyclops's uncanny way with planes.

They sit, quietly at first, and drink together. Comrades in training and in battle, now bound by their shared goal of continuing the vision of three dead mentors.

They are here tonight to honor one of them.

They tell stories, because that is how heroes are celebrated. Stories of their own early days at the mansion, how they came to be there, why they stayed. Stories of the first days of training as X-Men, how they weren't sure they'd make it, how they all felt like imposters. Their stories all revolve around one man with red shades and a grin that could have the devil himself agreeing to take a bad bargain.

They laugh, because Cyclops was always laughing. They cry, because they miss him. They each make a silent pact that they will be to future students what he had been to them.

And in the end, it is Piotr who raises his bottle of beer high, holding it up to glow of the court's amber lights until the glass shines like a golden talisman against the night.

"To Cyclops," he says. He uses the codename, the hero's name, because tonight their fallen teacher is more than a man, though less than a god. They are making a myth out of him, a new one that casts him as both a wounded soul and a wandering king.

"To Cyclops," the others echo.

They tilt their glasses back and drink.

And remember.
Tags: bobby, john, kitty pryde, movieverse, rogue, scott/jean

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[info]cassandra581

April 11 2007, 01:59:39 UTC 5 years ago

I loved it. I had tears in my eyes at the end. This was wonderful depiction of Scott's relationship with his students and their respect of him as a leader and teacher and a man. Great job!

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 06:02:50 UTC 5 years ago

Wow, thank you! I'm so glad you liked it, and that what I was trying to show -- Scott as teacher, as foster parent, as leader of the X-Men -- came through.

[info]counterfeitcoin

April 11 2007, 05:00:36 UTC 5 years ago

This is just so beautiful. This is the extraordinary (all teachers are, especially those who actually help children/young adults, fo' real) ordinary I love about Scott. You don't realize when you've had an amazing teacher until you're an adult yourself and you've got a little perspective, right? I love that he knows what to do to get John to care about math (and now I'm kind of angry at John for going to the Brotherhood). I love that kinship with Rogue that she doesn't realize yet and the way he's momentarily so lost with Kitty (I would love to see those high school pictures). I think I might possibly love part three the most, though, because that's so Scott. That's such a perfect moment. I love how you laid the complexity of Scott's feeling toward Logan/Jean's crush on Logan with the conversation with Hank.

Part five was like a punch in the gut. He has been my hero since I was knee-high to a beanstalk, I had issues with the way there was no closure for the other characters and therefore me as a viewer over his death. So. Way to go.

Wow look at me blather like an idiot. I think I need to reread this now. Good job.

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 06:18:24 UTC 5 years ago

Oh wow. *blush* Thank you so much for the articulate feedback! Now I'm going to blather trying to answer it. :D

You don't realize when you've had an amazing teacher until you're an adult yourself and you've got a little perspective, right?

I'm not sure I necessarily agree with that, but I think that at the stage of life Scott's students are in (late teenaged years, at least the ones in this fic)... yeah, it's probably really hard for them to recognize what a great teacher he is. Especially since he's also a kind of surrogate parent for a lot of them, so he's rather taken for granted.

I see Scott as trying very, very hard with John... partly because they're similar, in a lot of ways, and Scott just wants for him to be good, you know? I'm a huge fan of Scott-Rogue friendship stories and definitely see them as two people with a lot in common. I'm glad that worked for you here. And I'm thrilled that someone liked the Homer references in Hank and Scott's conversation! I was a bit hesitant to leave that in, because I wasn't sure how accessible it'd be, but now I'm glad I did.

Finally, yeah, one failing of X3 for me was the lack of closure over Scott's death (and the way no one at the mansion seemed to notice he was missing... wtf, moviemakers?) The junior X-Men holding a wake for him on the basketball court was actually a piece of personal fanon that I came up with for a different story that's now firmly entrenched in my mind.

All this to say, thanks for reading and letting me know you liked it!

Anonymous

April 11 2007, 06:38:57 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, I loved it. From the humourous to serious (and the fitting final part; did they even hold a funeral for him? Not in any of the film I saw), this kaleidoscope of Scott showed every part of him just as I imagined. And, for the record, I love your John.

(Actually, this seems a great time to put in a big thank you for holding the ficathon, so thanks!)

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:29:31 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you! I'm glad you liked it, especially John. He's a lot of fun to write. :D

And it's been great fun for me to hold the ficathon. I'm really glad people are enjoying it!

[info]cyndrarae

April 11 2007, 11:23:30 UTC 5 years ago

This is fantastic! A perfect tribute to a perfect hero and I can't even begin to thank you enough for sharing this! So few fics out there have done such a brilliant character study of Scott. His insecurities about Logan (The 'I hear there's a suitor in Ithaca' reference is brilliant!) and his referring to the Blackbird as she are examples of how human and boyish he can be. But at the same time you've described his principles and his need to always do what's right through fantastic examples!! jeez I can't get over how brilliant this is!! Thank you so so much hon, you've made my day :)

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:31:19 UTC 5 years ago

Oh wow, thanks so much! *blush*

Hearing that you liked how this was structured makes me really happy. And that you thought a lot of different facets of Scott's character were on display. That was really what I was trying to do, so yay! (And hurrah for Homer love!)

[info]alitheiatruth

April 11 2007, 12:45:36 UTC 5 years ago

Wonderful! I haven't read a ton of Scott fic (being fairly new to this group) but of the ones I have read, this is the best.

I agree, the movies really dropped the ball with Scott's death--he was the fricking leader! Come on. He was almost as much of a figure head as the professor. No one mourned him. So having the students hold a personal wake for him was so very appropriate.

And I loved the admitted complexity of Logan's interest in Jean. And the moral conflict of whether or not they should have been brought to the mansion at all.

"Yeah, well," Scott said aloud, to no one in particular, "It's the right thing to do."

Almost like he was convincing himself.

The whole fic was very well done. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks.

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:36:56 UTC 5 years ago

Thanks! And yeah, I agree completely about how poorly the movies dealt with Scott's death. The students' wake was something that came to me when I was writing another fic, and it's just become my personal canon now. I guess this is my defense-of-Scott story, right here. :)

And I loved the admitted complexity of Logan's interest in Jean. And the moral conflict of whether or not they should have been brought to the mansion at all.

I'm really glad that came through, since it always bugs me when any one person of that triangle is vilified. And I think Scott means what he says when he talks to Bobby about doing the right thing. He might hate it and sometimes wish he wasn't so bound to his own moral code, but in the end, he does what's right. Xenia, to the Greeks, was a duty owed to the gods, and not something you take lightly at all, and I think that's how Scott feels, even if he wouldn't articulate it that way.

[info]uraniachang

April 11 2007, 13:39:39 UTC 5 years ago

Perfect story, that's the only word to describe your work.
And the last scene had my eyes filled with tears. *sniff*

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:37:31 UTC 5 years ago

Aw, thanks, hon! I'm glad you liked it. *hands you a tissue*

[info]inathunderstorm

April 11 2007, 14:09:03 UTC 5 years ago

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I AM CRYING AT MY DESK AND IT IS 9 AM.

Dude, *FANGIRLS MADLY* This is phenomenal. I don't need to tell you how much I loved the classical stuff:


"Well, if that happens, at least you know his name." And that hadn't been funny, not really.


!!!!!!!!!!!!

But I totally am going to :P I loved the sections, each name, how you made it fit so perfectly with each facet of Scott's personality. And, oh, GOD THE END!!!

This is so perfectly, wonderfully Scott. Oh, wow. I am just floored by this, and your talent, and you are amazing and awesome and this was beautiful and so, so perfectly in character!! Wonderful, wonderful stuff!!!

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:40:14 UTC 5 years ago

Yay! I've reduced Sionn to keyboard smashing!

And I'll admit to thinking to myself while writing this, "OMG, there's way too much classical stuff. Even if I'm firmly convinced that Professor X gave all of his early students a thoroughly classical education. Everyone's going to hate this. Well... everyone but Sionn and Min, maybe." So, I'm glad people have thought it works. :D It was a lot of fun to figure out what these ancient values would mean to Scott, now.

[info]caiusmajor

April 11 2007, 14:55:05 UTC 5 years ago

Oh man. I love the chapter names and the references and also how they *fit* with Scott and his calling as a teacher and his relationship with his students. Very very nice!

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:41:34 UTC 5 years ago

Oh yay! Thank you! I was really worried about classical reference overkill, so I'm glad it worked for you.

[info]renata_kedavra

April 11 2007, 18:06:10 UTC 5 years ago

Oh my! This is gloriousss, thank you so much!

This is so perfectly the way I envision Scott, and all the students are spot-on too. I think my favorite one was his interaction with Kitty (maybe because I was soo Kitty in high school). But they're all great, and I can see them all happening. And I love how self-aware Scott is, reflecting on what Logan means to him and to Bobby and to Jean. Also maybe I was just kidding when I said I had a favorite--I completely adore the one with John, too. "You're not here just for that, John, and you know it. Though I hardly take 'a couple of drawings' that turned the girls in your class into sex objects lightly." Such a... accurate, teachery thing to say and then it turns more serious with discussion of the team... oh, Scott.

And then the last one... oh God, so sad and perfect. One of the things that bugged me most about X3 was the way Scott just disappeared. I'd love to think that something like this happened at some point.

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:46:06 UTC 5 years ago

Heh, I was totally a Kitty in high school, too. Though I wasn't fortunate enough to have a Scott-like teacher! :)

Oh, Scott, indeed, especially with John. He wants so very badly for John just to be good. I'd like to think some of what Scott said made it through.

I'm glad the wake worked for you. One thing that bugged me TO NO END about X3 was the lack of concern shown for Scott's death. It just rang so false. Here's this man who was hero, team leader, teacher, foster parent, older brother... and no one even notices he's gone? No one mourns his passing? No way!

I'm sooo glad that you liked this, and that it fit in with your vision of Scott.

[info]jeangreyrocks

April 11 2007, 18:28:34 UTC 5 years ago

Beautifully perfect! You are A-MAZING!

I love the references to your other works (e.g., the red pen, John's pornographic doodling, the memorial for Scott, etc.). The whole thing was so fantastic from start to finish.

I particularly liked that Scott wrote the flying manuals (LOL!) and was confident when comforting Kitty even though he was thoroughly confused about why she didn't see his logic (aww!).

Favorite LOL moment:

She snorted. "Right. 'Oh, pardon me, Katya, but you are so hideous that no man in his right mind would ever want to kiss you.'"

"He said that?"

"No... but, I mean, what's a girl to think?"


[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 18:48:53 UTC 5 years ago

Oh, thank you! I'm glad you liked it. And heh, yeah, you caught me out. I borrow very freely from myself whenever I write in this universe. It really thrills me when readers catch on, too.

And of course Scott wrote the manuals! Heh, I think even if he'd had originals he would've written them. Because... you know, Scott. :) And I'm really, really thrilled you liked Kitty. I haven't had much chance to write her, so that scene was a lot of fun, and I'm relieved to hear it worked.

[info]stephanometra

April 11 2007, 19:15:55 UTC 5 years ago

God, your headings are perfect. Such a fabulous way to organize a fic, and you really, really made it work. Man, I'm floored. ♥

[info]musamea

April 11 2007, 19:20:00 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you! I was worried about being too self-indulgent with all the classical stuff, so I'm glad you liked the references as an organizing principle. :)

[info]kaz814

April 11 2007, 22:46:14 UTC 5 years ago

This was just lovely. Your portrayal of Scott and his students was perfect and your characterization was fantastic.

[info]musamea

April 12 2007, 02:16:45 UTC 5 years ago

Aww, thanks! I love teacher!Scott and am just so glad that others do, too.

[info]ion_bond

April 11 2007, 23:08:59 UTC 5 years ago

This is a wonderful tribute -- better than denial is to do what you can in fic to fix bad canon.

I particularly liked parts I and IV and the way they showed how Scott is sensitive to the very different needs of his students. He feels strongly about flying, but teaching is more important. What a guy. (And he definitely comes off as cool, here.)

Bravo to you.

[info]musamea

April 12 2007, 02:19:21 UTC 5 years ago

Yay! You think my Scott is cool! :) And yeah, I definitely think the mark of a good teacher is the ability to adjust to particular students, or particular situations. I really wanted to show Scott going the extra mile there.

And thank you so much for the nice comment!

[info]roguewords

April 11 2007, 23:36:06 UTC 5 years ago

oh god.

*cries*

I just.. this is perfect Musa, you know? The sections and how they show different parts of Scott that make him the man that we all love. And I don't think the classical references were too much. I think they were lovely, and worked beautifully.

Oh Scott.

the one with Rogue is my favorite.

[info]musamea

April 12 2007, 02:24:22 UTC 5 years ago

Aw, hon, thanks! It means a lot to me that you liked this and found the classics references appropriate.

And yes, oh, Scott. I figured I owed him one after what I put him through in the other fic I wrote for this ficathon. :)

[info]rachel_martin64

April 12 2007, 03:30:16 UTC 5 years ago

I like this so much. Scott as a teacher to Kitty, Rogue, Bobby, Peter and John. And the last section, where the junior X-Men get together to remember Scott and honor him. The movie failed disgracefully to convey the family aspect of the X-Men. No one seemed to care that Scott had died, and that wasn't just a disservice to Scott, but to the all the residents of the mansion. I really liked the way you depicted the kids remembering Scott. Thanks!

I also liked the way you depicted Scott as being mature about Logan's ridiculous flirtation with Jean. You described very well how his position required him to take the high road; he doesn't really have the option of behaving as he might wish.

[info]musamea

April 12 2007, 03:36:55 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you! I'm really happy that you liked it.

And yes, I absolutely hated how the movie dealt with (or didn't deal with) Scott's death. It was shoddy filmmaking, and the only way I can reconcile X3 canon in my head is to hold fast to my conviction that the team honored him in many little ways, offscreen.

Scott as being mature about Logan's ridiculous flirtation with Jean

Mmm, I like that way of putting it, as well as saying he takes the high road. The Greek ideal of xenia is something I'm extremely interested in -- what does it mean to owe a debt of hospitality to the gods, and what does that obligate one to do? What happens when that system breaks down? So I'm glad you liked it. :)

[info]vaznetti

April 12 2007, 11:17:27 UTC 5 years ago

This is just beautiful -- I love the way you show Scott teaching these virtues because he possesses them. It isn't just what he does, it's who he is -- those things are inseparable.

And I loved the final section. Heartbreaking.

(A suitor in Ithaca, indeed! Do you think there were lots of jokes about poking people's eyes out with sticks in Cyclops' past? I hope so.)

[info]musamea

April 12 2007, 15:13:27 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you!

It isn't just what he does, it's who he is -- those things are inseparable.

Exactly. I very much wanted to show Scott not just feeding his students the usual teacher "lines," but to be talking out of his actual experience and his actual beliefs.

And heh about the eye jokes. I really wish the movies had exploited the codenames more... and it's funny, because when I was writing that section, I was so fixated on the Odyssean aspect of Scott's situation that I got to the end of the conversation and realized, Oh... wait. Whoops. :)

Hey, would you mind if I friended you? I clicked over to your journal and saw that you're an SPN AND a Rome fan, and that you list Publius Clodius Pulcher under your interests. :)

[info]vaznetti

5 years ago

[info]ridesandruns

April 14 2007, 05:27:33 UTC 5 years ago

Beautiful, as always. That last scene just broke me. I just adore your work, even if the classical references tend to remind me of how ignorant I am! This was just lovely.

[info]musamea

April 14 2007, 05:53:58 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you! And heh, despite the fact that I think of Classics as The One True Major, I do hope my fics could stand on their own without the references. I had to post this story in a hurry, but I plan to add some notes about the various virtues when I archive it at my website.

[info]st_aurafina

April 20 2007, 03:52:33 UTC 5 years ago

*cries* This is so beautiful, and you can see how important Scott was to all those kids, and it's sad at the end and oh, *cries more*. Your fic is so well fleshed out and real, I just want to dive into it.

[info]musamea

May 7 2007, 01:08:27 UTC 5 years ago

Whoops, I must've missed this comment! *facepalm* Thank you, I'm really thrilled you like it.

[info]viciouswishes

May 7 2007, 00:14:12 UTC 5 years ago

Wonderful.

[info]musamea

May 7 2007, 01:08:55 UTC 5 years ago

Thank you! (Also, icon love like whoa. *G*)

[info]leia_naberrie

May 18 2009, 10:02:51 UTC 3 years ago

Oh wow, I found this via a rec on [info]selenak's journal and I'm adding it to my Memories. What a great story! I wish the movies had done more with this guy.

[info]realpestilence

June 25 2011, 12:19:22 UTC 11 months ago

If only he always could be treated with such respect and understanding by the various canon writers...
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